Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Hogweard
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I originally tagged these as no source but that was disputed by User:Hogweard. However, the authorship was never provided at English Wikipedia.
Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:38, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: Per nom. Green Giant (talk) 20:02, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
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https://www.northern-times.co.uk/news/furore-over-flag-for-sutherland-137249/ "The judging panel eventually chose three winners with the final design an amalgam of all three." copyright owner = the judging panel and/or the three winners.
RZuo (talk) 08:18, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- The graphic was not from the Northern Times, but from the Flag Institute. A strict criterion for the Flag Institute to enter a flag on the UK Flag Register is that the designer permit free use of it. The UK Flag Register page is clear that 'Excluded are ... flags subject to copyright restrictions.' This flag, (dismissively nicknamed locally the 'angry budgie') is no longer on the register because it was popularly rejected, but I drew the vector version when it was on the register. The designer renounced the copyright as a condition of entry in the competition. Hogweard (talk) 08:43, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- however "strict" that criterion is, it's not the copyright owner. it's a private organisation with 5 trustees and 7 volunteers https://register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-search/-/charity-details/5038228/charity-overview .
- explicit permission from the copyright owner, or direct evidence that proves copyright has been given up, is needed. RZuo (talk) 09:30, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hang on a bit then while I speak to the Institute (of which I am not a member). It was resolved years ago that the Flag Institute release for free use the flags they have registered. The 'Angry Budgie' flag was, as I understand it, based on a design sent in by a member of the public and redrawn by the Flag Institute more neatly to make it suitable for use, so you could say the author of the design is the Flag Institute, which would make it the copyright owner, and the author of the vector version was me. I really don't like having to argue these things all over again ab initio every couple of years, but I will email the Flag Institute, again, and see if they can give something to satisfy on the point. Hogweard (talk) 11:59, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- yes, please, thank you. it's important to document the source of such diagrams, because not all of them are old enough to be in pd, or simple enough to not have copyright.
- i notice that you have more svg uploads, like File:Tudor crown.svg, for which you should identify as much as possible what the "2022 College of Arms pattern" is or where it is sourced from, who the original author is, etc. RZuo (talk) 16:05, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- I would be happy to see File:Flag of Sutherland.svg deleted: I cannot get it renamed (I tried again, with better reasons). It has a misleading name: deleting it would seem to be the only way to resolve that.
- It is half term week this week - never the best time to get hold of anyone. I will still see if I can talk to someone with the Flag Institute whom I know.
- If I ever speak to a herald in the next few months, which is not impossible, I will try to edge the conversation towards the use of the Royal Cypher. The cypher it is used on innumerable badges and flags which do appear on Commons: we have many with Her Late Majesty's "EIIR" and these flags and badges are being replaced. Hogweard (talk) 07:30, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hang on a bit then while I speak to the Institute (of which I am not a member). It was resolved years ago that the Flag Institute release for free use the flags they have registered. The 'Angry Budgie' flag was, as I understand it, based on a design sent in by a member of the public and redrawn by the Flag Institute more neatly to make it suitable for use, so you could say the author of the design is the Flag Institute, which would make it the copyright owner, and the author of the vector version was me. I really don't like having to argue these things all over again ab initio every couple of years, but I will email the Flag Institute, again, and see if they can give something to satisfy on the point. Hogweard (talk) 11:59, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- The graphic was not from the Northern Times, but from the Flag Institute. A strict criterion for the Flag Institute to enter a flag on the UK Flag Register is that the designer permit free use of it. The UK Flag Register page is clear that 'Excluded are ... flags subject to copyright restrictions.' This flag, (dismissively nicknamed locally the 'angry budgie') is no longer on the register because it was popularly rejected, but I drew the vector version when it was on the register. The designer renounced the copyright as a condition of entry in the competition. Hogweard (talk) 08:43, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, can be undeleted with OTRS. --Gbawden (talk) 07:38, 22 February 2023 (UTC)